they're as familiar with china and india and brazil as they are with the town next door. >> rose: tom friedman, you went back to minnesota, your hometown. >> well, charlie, found two things just to pick up on tom brokaw and we both grew up in eating in the same restaurant in m.p. (laughter) on the one hand i found the same kind of excitement tom found. a lot of people, young people doing great innovation and startups in the m.p. area. but here's what i also found, charlie, i spent a day or an afternoon with three minnesota entrepreneurs to talk to them about the skills gap in the country. and it was an incredible conversation, i'll share one slice of it. there was a woman, she and her sister inherited a steel plating company from their father in tracey, minnesota. and a year or two ago they got a contract for arming humvees. putting steel plating on humvees and they went out to find-- had to hire a dozen welders, a dozen welders. and they couldn't find 12 people who could do this welding. she explained welding today is a stem job. it's a science and technology job. you have to underst